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Mar. 30th, 2011 11:59 pm
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Yes, again. I'm rather bored and haven't written much these days anyway. So.

Taken from [livejournal.com profile] hungrytiger11 :
Comment on this, and I'll ask you five questions of varying subjects and serious-ness :)


She asked me:
1) What job do you have (or want to have)?
I don't have a job yet. I'm not sure what I would be suited to do - right now I'm trying for teaching French to foreigners, because I'm rather good at my own language and have a pathological instinct of correcting everyone around me that doesn't use proper grammar. That, and I thought that being able to answer "YES I'M A FUCKING FRENCH TEACHER" to all the retards who snap a "WHUT R U a French Teacha or sumthin?" at those who criticize their masterpieces would be SO FUCKING WORTH THE TROUBLE. Yes, I'm a brat and a mean person, and I despise people who don't even try to write properly. I'm not feeling very confident, though, 'cause I have no patience whatsoever for all the pedagogic crap I'm being fed at university.

2 )What is your Favorite manga?
Wow, now that's a tough one. There are many series I like, so picking up only one really is impossible for me.
I think the one I'm the most attached to is Naruto, what with all my ranting and screaming and whining about it ans still being addicted to that shit
The series I find most enjoyable to read... There's Bleach, because Kubo powns everyone and their mothers at narration. Then there's Kekkaishi, because it's a shounen that follows all the rules of the genre and stills does its ladies, antagonists, setting and plot justice. Of course there's Claymore, because it has warrior chicks everywhere and an awesome plot. Bloodsucker, because it's dark and creepy and I have a huge soft spot for real, scary and gore vampires. And Dorohedoro, because of its weirdness and originality, and of its awesome atmosphere of both horror and humor.

3) Name a story trope you love?

YOU ARE AN EVIL, EVIL PERSON. Having someone open the TV trope page is like sentencing their computer to support a good fifty pages in about half an hour XD
...Cain and Abel. (I tend to ground for Cain.)

4) What was the last book you read?

Apart from mangas, Magician by Raymond E. Feist, from the Riftwar Saga.
If mangas count as books, Mad Love Chase, volume 2 and 3.

5) Favorite part of you day?

Evening, when I'm home in front of my computer and my friends are online so I can chat and all.

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Date: 2011-03-30 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flo-nelja.livejournal.com
Je suis allée sur la page tvtropes de Cain et Abel, et j'ai courageusement fermé sans suivre aucun lien ! Et je me suis rendu compte que je n'avais pas de préférence entre le Abel et le Cain. Ca dépend 100% de leur personnalité individuelle dans cette histoire précise. (Aussi, des fois, je ne prends pas partie, et je leur gueule à tous les deux "réconciliez-vous, boulets !")

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Date: 2011-03-30 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ishime.livejournal.com
Cet acte de bravoure mérite des louanges ! J'ai dû passer une heure sur TV tropes pour trouver une trope de narration qui collait XD (J'ai déjà dû te le dire, mais mes préférences se situent d'avantage au niveau des personnages ou de l'univers que de l'histoire proprement dite - la seule chose que j'exige d'une intrigue, c'est qu'elle soit cohérente).
J'ai tendance à prendre parti pour les Cain comme je prends parti pour le Cain originel - non pas tant parce que je hais Abel, mais parce que je trouve souvent l'auteur ou l'histoire horriblement cruelle avec eux. (Je trouve ce passage de la Bible particulièrement dégueulasse, d'ailleurs, même depuis qu'on m'a expliqué le sens des prénoms et la symbolique qu'ils créent).

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Date: 2011-03-30 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flo-nelja.livejournal.com
Oui, dans la Bible, c'est un cas où tout est clairement de la faute de Dieu. Je veux dire, il arrive quand même que les cas de Unfavorite soient pour des raisons un peu moins pourries ! (et en général, elles ne sont pas de la part du personnage qui est censé être omniscient, bon, juste, et qui donne un contre-exemple éclatant).
Abel, pour ce qu'on en sait, n'est pas responsable, et je ne peux pas dire que Cain ne l'est pas du tout, mais il a clairement été poussé.
Il y a des versions où les torts sont un peu plus partagés quand même, et le schéma joué de façon plus subtile.

Par contre, même si je le plains, c'est de l'extérieur, je n'empathise pas forcément avec lui, sauf dans la version de Victor Hugo, qui est classe. Il faudra que je lise la version de Saramago quand/si elle sortira en poche.

[Edit] Je veux bien des questions. Ca ne te dérange pas si je réponds ici au lieu de poster sur mon LJ ?
Edited Date: 2011-03-30 10:26 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2011-03-30 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ishime.livejournal.com
Je ne me rappelle pas de la version de Victor Hugo, mais celle de Baudelaire (http://baudelaire.litteratura.com/?rub=oeuvre&srub=pov&id=130), même si elle ne traite pas directement des personnages eux-mêmes, m'a beaucoup attachée à celui de Cain.

Tu peux répondre ici, vile paresseuse ~ (Jusqu'où n'irais-tu pas pour n'avoir pas à faire toi-même les memes auxquels tu participes !) XD

1) Ton ou tes parolier(s) préféré(s) en français ? Et en anglais ?
2) Tu es du genre chiens ou chats ?
3) Quels sont les auteurs dont le style t'as marquée ou particulièrement plu ?
4) Est-ce que tu es croyante ou pratiquante ?
5) Quels sont tes contes préférés ?

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Date: 2011-03-31 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flo-nelja.livejournal.com
Je voulais rajouter, d'ailleurs, que si ma mémoire est bonne Cain n'a jamais été The Unfavorite pour Adam et Eve, seulement pour Dieu ?

Bah, je l'ai déjà fait, ce mème, et je ne l'ai jamais officiellement clos, les gens peuvent venir demander des questions s'ils veulent...

1) Ton ou tes parolier(s) préféré(s) en français ? Et en anglais ?
Hum, quand il y a des groupes, je ne sais pas toujours quelles paroles sont de quel membre du groupe...
En français, j'aime Bertrand Cantat de Noir Désir, Mathias Malzieu de Dionysos, Romain Humeau d'Eiffel, Thiefaine, et dans les classiques, Brassens.
En anglais, c'est encore plus vaseux, sachant que je ne connais pas les paroles de tout ce que j'écoute. ^^ Mais il y a Bob Dylan, et probablement Lou Reed et Leonard Cohen.

2) Tu es du genre chiens ou chats ?
Je préfère les chats, mais pas au point d'en avoir un chez moi.

3) Quels sont les auteurs dont le style t'as marquée ou particulièrement plu ?
Et là, je me rends compte que c'est super-difficile de séparer le fond de la forme...
Par exemple, je n'ai aucune idée de si les plaisanteries permanentes de Pratchett font partie du style ou du contenu.
On parle des contes plus bas, et Henri Gougaud les raconte particulièrement bien, il peut m'intéresser à un conte que je connais par ailleurs et auquel je ne tiens pas, mais je ne sais pas si c'est son style en général ou s'il le fait juste pour les contes.
Et pour la poésie, ça devient encore plus compliqué. ^^

4) Est-ce que tu es croyante ou pratiquante ?
Non.

5) Quels sont tes contes préférés ?
J'aime vraiment beaucoup ce que fait Andersen, surtout La fille du roi de la vase, La reine des neiges et quelques autres...
La version du Corps sans Ame par Vercors, aussi.

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Date: 2011-03-30 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hungrytiger11.livejournal.com
Naruto is addictive even when annoying as all get out. I've never taken up Bleach.... What is Mad Love Chase About too, btw?

In order to teacher French as a Foreign Language (which is what it would be, right, if you want to teach to foreigners) do you need to go to Uni? To get certified for Teaching English as Foreign Language I just went to a 120 hour course and then "student taught" some classes to Czechs. I'm pretty sure a lot of places have that for other languages, such as French too. (Not that I'm advocating not going to college, but I got my certification over the summer. It might be something to look into....)

If you really like that trope, does that mean you really like the Itachi/Sasuke dynamic?

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Date: 2011-03-31 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ishime.livejournal.com
Bleach can be pretty annoying too, because it follows the shonen guidelines to a fault, and there are some passages where Kubo did ludicrous stuff - but his characters are great, and his narration is very poetic and beautiful and GAH. Totally worth it.

Mad Love Chase is a shojo manga, about a demon prince who flees Hell with his cat because of an arranged marriage. His father sends three guys after him - a perverted vampire, a grumpy, antisocial werewolf and a tall, simple, nice-guy!zombie. Of course, they all take a human form AND GO TO A HIGH-SCHOOL. The prince must avoid to let his back and tatoo be seen at all costs, and the three guys try to see whether or not the tat is here. Then the vampire harass the cat, who turned into a hot chick, and the nice zombie becomes the prince's friend, and they have HUGE YAOI SUBTEXT. And then enters the prince's fiancée, and other guys trying to see the prince's back, blah blah blah. Basically, lots of stupid shenanigans and ship tease.
...and zombie guy and the prince are really cute. Which is totally my main reason for reading it. XD

I don't know, I suppose it depends on your country. I've been told French institutions only take people with a Master (5 years of uni) in French as Foreign Language, and then you might also need EXPERIENCE, of course.
But for now I'm trying to get a job giving private lessons in English, since I already have a licence (3 years of uni).

The main problems are my shyness and social awkwardness. I suppose when you're motivated and confident, you always find a way - I'm neither.

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Date: 2011-03-31 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ishime.livejournal.com
Itachi and Sasuke aren't your typical Cain and Abel characters. I mean, Itachi used to be the favorite, but then his family turned away from him as soon as he showed something else than perfection. And then Itachi decided to fully turn the tables by himself.
Anyway, their bond is all twisted and unhealthy and destructive, so of course I like it. XD
(I like Itachi and Kisame relationship better, though. Sasuke doesn't understand his brother at all, but Kisame and Itachi both understand and don't understand each other.)

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Date: 2011-03-31 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hungrytiger11.livejournal.com
Lol.

Though you are right. Kisame definitely seemed to be friends with Itachi, which was kinda nice to see for the Atasuki. AUS where the Uchiha clan is still alive always fascinate me because of how it would change the dynamic between the brothers. Plus, you know, I have fun seeing what the authors decide Shisui must be like.

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Date: 2011-03-31 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hungrytiger11.livejournal.com
I don't know, I suppose it depends on your country. I've been told French institutions only take people with a Master (5 years of uni) in French as Foreign Language, and then you might also need EXPERIENCE, of course.

I think it depends on where you want to work too. If I wanted to teach English to non-native speakers in the US (where I'm from. Um, probably similar guidelines for the UK and NZ and Australia too, now that I think of it...) it does take more education, usually because those jobs are in the public school system. What I'm certified for is more aimed at going to and living in countries where English is not the country's main language. Usually one would teach classes for a company, sometimes at a building they own or at the site of who ever is paying for the lessons. A lot of large businesses hire teachers to come and teach lessons at their offices....

I bet you are really good at giving lessons! Good luck in your job hunt! Everyone gets shy and awkward when job hunting (admittedly, some cover this up better than others. I've never learned their secrets to that though), but I'm sure you will do well anyway!

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Date: 2011-03-31 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ishime.livejournal.com
Well, I was speaking about working for the French associations abroad - such as l'Alliance Française and the likes (the French government uses them to actively promote the French language and culture abroad - I was taught that it's a bit different from English speaking countries?). They usually demand a master, or at the very least a licence. I don't know whether companies have their own lessons and teachers.

Ah, er, thank you? I hope you're right.

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Date: 2011-03-31 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soleil-ambrien.livejournal.com
Eye !

Est-ce que ça t'embête si je fais comme [livejournal.com profile] flo_nelja en te répondant ici ? (Moi aussi, j'ai déjà un ou deux mèmes du genre sur mon LJ, donc...)
Edited Date: 2011-03-31 11:30 am (UTC)

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Date: 2011-04-01 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakoni.livejournal.com
Kubo powns everyone and their mothers at narration.

*rigole*

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Date: 2011-04-01 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ishime.livejournal.com
YOU KNOW HE DOES.

...Does that mean you want some questions? (I can keep them away from your private life, if you're not comfortable with that).

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Date: 2011-04-01 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakoni.livejournal.com
Tant que tu me les poses pas en anglais, j'y vois pas d'inconvénient... Mais j'y répondrai sans doute ici aussi, sans vouloir copier Nelja XD

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